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The thing that sticks out to me (and I feel like a good number of people that voted for him this last time fall into this category because they didn’t like that they were required to get vaccinated, and yet have no problem with the government controlling women’s bodies and medical choices under the guise of being pro life) was your comment about being independent and preferring small government, less taxes, etc. what the people who voted that way don’t seem to realize is the average person is still paying the same amount in taxes (only the billionaires got a tax cut) and yet the first thing the current administration did was slash services that millions of Americans relied on calling it waste and fraud. They then took all the money they “saved” and dumped it into the budget for ICE to terrorize people, including American citizens. This government is also stripping rights and free speech. All of our individual freedoms are being obliterated. Maybe pass that along to the people that want a small government, they’ve gotten the total opposite. And it was all in project 2025. They told you what was going to happen. Now he keeps pondering cancelling the midterm elections, so there go more rights.

I agree with you on all points. For the record I have never taken any kind of stance against abortions. I’ve always felt that we don’t care about a child once it’s born here so why are these people so adamant to stop women from exercising rights over their own bodies? You’re right about us calling those cut services fraud. They were presented that way to us and we are the perfect mockingbirds. It may sound crazy to you but it felt wrong to say billionaires are the enemy. To conservatives billionaires are just successful people with drive and ability that worked hard to get where they are. They provide us with jobs and benefits. They shouldn’t be punished because we just don’t strive for greatness like them. I’m not here to make any excuses. I just find myself asking what is wrong with these people and why don’t they see the truth? I know democrats have been asking this for years and wanted to provide any insight that I could. Thank you for your time and feedback.

I disagree about your point on billionaires. In 99% of the cases they are not self made. Musk had money handed to him. He maybe made some wise investment decisions, and he has definitely negotiated some appallingly large compensations packages for himself, but from what I can tell he mostly got where he is by joining a company and then locking out the founders in a hostile take over (Tesla), or cashing in on billions in government contracts (SpaceX – which mostly blows up things). Quite frankly Musk is some of the waste that should be cut from our government spending. Trump had money handed to him. And then filed bankruptcy 6 time while habitually screwing over vendors that he contracted with and then drowning them in court costs until they caved or went out of business. Most (if not all) billionaires had familial wealth and a leg up in the game that 99% of us will never have. Part of that leg up is having a wealthy family that could pay to send them to the best colleges while the average person is saddled with a lifetime of debt to go to an average college. But we can use government money to bail out corporations but not people that took out student loans. Billionaires also do not pass along wealth. Trickle-down economics has always been a lie. The money just gets hoarded at the top. Sure the businesses they run create jobs for people, but their overarching goal is to keep wages low. Wages have not gone up at the same rate as the things we buy but the lie they tell is that if they pay people more the cost of things will go up. Hence why your minimum wage hasn’t gone up in decades. Well sorry to say the cost of things go up anyway. And without wages going up we all just keep falling further behind. Yet you all believe the lie that if you work hard enough you too can become a billionaire. If you made $100 an hour and SAVED all of it, it would take you 4807 years to EARN a billion dollars. ($100 per hour x 40 hours a week x 52 weeks a year equals $208,000 a year. $1,000,000,000 / $208,000 = 4,807.692 in case you want to check my math.) Again that figure assumes that you spend NONE of your earnings. Everyone wanted to decry inflation post covid as the reason everything skyrocketed, and while there was worldwide inflation post pandemic there was also a lot of corporate greed. I think it was the CEO of Kroger that admitted to artificially inflating prices. Record profits without corresponding record sales is corporate greed, plain and simple. And deregulation just furthers corporate greed at the expense of our health and money. Corporations answer to shareholders, they cannot be trusted to do something just because it’s the right thing to do. Look at the EPA protections against pesticides and other toxins that are being rolled back by this administration so that corporations can be more profitable, and yet prices don’t go down. And with the cuts to healthcare and insurance subsidies, people that get seriously ill won’t be able to afford medical care to treat the cancers they get from these decisions. I agree with Bernie Sanders, no one needs to be a billionaire. 100% tax on any income over $999,000 could fund quite a lot of needed services for our country. And then billionaires actually would be helping society instead of pushing us all into poverty with their greed and money hoarding.

I totally agree with you on all of that. I was just trying to speak to what we are taught, how we have been ingrained to feel about billionaires. It is a fact that giving breaks to the wealthy just allows them to hoard money. The poor and middle class spend the majority of their income and stimulate the economy by a far greater percentage. Bernie is pretty amazing and I always thought the fair tax would have worked so well. Following Bernie has helped me tremendously in my journey to be a better human. I would bet that if asked, most republicans say they feel the billionaires are deserving because of those beliefs. Trickle down economics doesn’t work and I believe it’s been impossible to change because of the foothold these billionaires and lobbyists have on the American government. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.

So what are your thoughts on being forced (for the good of everyone) to wear a mask during COVID vs ice agents now wearing masks for “job safety”? Or thinking COVID vaccines are going to cause door to door paper checking vs it actually happening now under another trump regime?

I think ICE agents are the lowest form of human. I think many of them enjoy the job they are doing and that’s how they get their kicks. They wear masks because they know they are doing things that someone will come after them for one day, legally or not. I’m not anti-vax and I worry about the way conservatives handle that with RFK at the helm. I get it dude, I’m the villain here. I’m not claiming otherwise.

This was really long but I appreciate it because I spend so much time trying to understand voting against your best interest. And you’re very thoughtful.

Thank you for that. That was 100% my goal here. The mind works in fantastic and amazing ways. Though it may not seem that way, I have always enjoyed hearing things from another prospective in order to gain better understanding.

What do you think it would take for others who voted for him to have their eyes opened? They won’t read your comment, and they won’t listen to us. Do any of them listen to you? Even a tiny bit? Is there anything Trump could do that would pop their bubble?

I honestly don’t know what would wake them up. It’s as crazy to me as it is to you that they’re still supporting him. I literally spend hours a day sharing everything I see that would make the average person care and I’m pretty sure it’s just gotten me unfollowed or unfriended on social media. I’m a quiet person with not much of a following anyway. I probably post on social media 5-10 times a year ands it’s usually a share for a business or something about animals. The 15+ posts a day about civil rights and injustices may have been too much of a shock for their systems! I think the average supporter worries you’ll take their guns or that you’ll spend all of our tax money on services that highlight issues they believe to be non issues. For instance, they do not prioritize mental health but blame you when a man with mental health issues kills a white girl on a bus. It’s not logical and why I feel like a crazy person for ever supporting any of them. I love seeing that the pope has spoken up. The Be Good movement in Hollywood and even their on air god Joe Rogan has dabbled in speaking truth. I know lots of conservatives that have changed their minds. I truly believe midterms will show a whole new voting pattern. There’s a whole group of people who feel like I do. We don’t have a party anymore because we chose wrong and then realized we are aligned with facists. I’d love to see more people with platforms stand up. Every sheep needs a shepherd. Thank you for your curiosity and time. I think having open discussions with people is the best way to debunk misinformation and find common ground.