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P
Do you have anywhere to stay? Any other family except for him? What on earth.. You’re absolutely NOR, I am very sorry this is happening to you.
I
It’s illegal to kick out someone like this without notice. doesn’t matter if he’s 18 or not. OP has tenants rights.
D
There are way more factors involved than just “it’s illegal to kick someone out without notice.” Location matters. Some states/countries have different laws. For instance where I’m at, your ‘tenant’ law doesn’t apply if the ‘tenant’ is living under the same roof as the home owner. If it was an apartment or guest house, that’s different.
A
In the US there are tenants rights for residents in every state
P
I can speak for my state (NC) and it’s gonna vary by county for how they interpret the laws. Every county I’ve worked in at 18 a child can be kicked out – provided they are not already paying rent. If they are paying rent they’re a tenant and must be evicted, but if not they’re considered a guest, and can be kicked out any time. ETA lawyers opinion in NC on kicking out 18 year old https://answers.justia.com/question/2017/12/04/can-parents-legally-kick-out-an-18yo-sti-356214 School of Law blog entry on eviction vs trespass https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/2011/10/11/trespass-vs-ejectment/
A
Everybody’s arguing on here about tenant laws and rights and 30 day notice but does anyone think OP would want to be there for the next 30 days? His fucking “father” would make life hell im sure.
C
A lot of people don’t seem to realize that rights are fantastic and all but a lot of times you need money and resources to enforce them.
J
On my 17th birthday my dad called the police to kick me out. I told him that it’s literally too much a 17 year old out on the street. The police officer said “it’s a gray area” and my dad gave me a pillow and blanket and told me good luck.
E
police in fact don’t understand or know laws in most interactions. thats why they are a real problem. at least in the US.
M
This is what ‘defund the police’ is about, really- they are trained to protect property and damn little else; all the MRAPs and helicopters won’t sort tenant or family rights and safety. There are people who do that really well, so maybe hire them instead of more ‘troops’,
P
Being homeless is worse.
T
It’s the same where I live (sweden) but as an added protection you cannot legally get kicked out whilst studying
E
It still usually requires a 30 day notice. Cops aren’t going to remove OP. They’ll say it’s a civil issue, which will buy OP some more time.
M
Cops might also yell at the dad for wasting their time and being an asshole.
U
In MA, under some circumstances there are tenancy rights even if no rent is paid which requires 30 days notice. In others, it is considered the “guest” circumstance you’ve said, and actually comes with a 90 day window. Most places in America are not making it legal to just throw someone out on the street at a moments notice, unless there’s a restraining order involved.
I
NOR..I live in NC too. I help pay bills but I dont pay rent. Does that count??…
P
Yes! Paying bills absolutely counts. You’re staying here is contingent on paying bills, so that creates a tenancy relationship everywhere I’ve worked in NC. Similarly, an agreement of “I pay the Netflix,” or “I buy half the groceries” or even “I mow the yard” can create that tenancy, because your staying at the residence is contingent on a you doing something.
C
I’m european and i don’t relaly understand why law would consider a child a tenant. Isn’t the responsibility of a parent to provide and care for his sons and daughters until they’re self sufficient? Does the law excuse you at 18? In most eu country this whole letter could be sent to a judge and he would absolutely have a field day on the father
K
Nutjobs like this person’s father think that at 18 you suddenly have absolutely 0 responsibility to the person you have raised and had living with you. At this point OP basically would be trying to use the laws that apply to tenants for protection against unlawful or unannounced eviction. there isnt any formal law saying a parent has responsibility toward their child even as an adult since most moral people dont dump their kid out the second they’re legally allowed to without resources, planning or warning so tenant is the closest legal option for them i think
S
Guarantee you he’s still going to claim OP on taxes until he can’t anymore.
A
Isn’t that illegal? Like if you’re paying taxes yourself and claiming yourself on your tax forms, your parents can’t claim you as a dependent. Not a lawyer though so I could be wrong.
A
OP could contact the IRS in a year or two and make sure he’s not being claimed by Father of the Year. A small consolation. My heart hurts for the OP. I want to take him in, send him to college, and make sure he’s his successful best self to spite his dad. But I’m poor and my house is really small.
T
In a lot of places (I’m generalizing) once you hit 18 you’re an adult they can kick out. But you have the tenants rights behind you because that’s your place of residence. So they *can* kick you out but they have to follow proper eviction channels.
C
Oh so in america you can’t drink until 21 but you can get kicked out at 18? A wonderland indeed 😂
F
You can join the army and die at the whim of corrupt old men before you can drink.
T
Yeah well, land of the free and all that. You can also be sent to war 3 years before you can buy alcohol too.
J
Try 4. My son’s friend was 17 when he enlisted and joined the Marines(parental consent). He graduated high school a full year ahead of his class. He graduates Boot Camp the 23rd of this month, I do believe. So, 17 is old enough to teach someone how to use a gun and go to war.
M
You can join at 17 in the US, but you can’t deploy to a combat zone until you are 18. Marines included.
C
Wait ’till you find out about guns!
S
It’s getting better by the day. /s
L
wait until you hear there’s no federal minimum age for marriage 34 states allow child marriage, four states (INCLUDING CALIFORNIA) set no minimum age at all, meaning that with parental consent, a child of *any* age can legally be married of course the kids who end up married at age 10 or 11 are overwhelmingly girls forced into the beds of adult men
1
No, not really. They are saying he can’t be kicked out without proper notice. At least 30 days
J
Actually in most places they *can’t* kick you out at 18 if you are still in high school. OP being homeschooled may complicate that, but the intent is to give the child time to get a diploma, so unless he has the equivalent already, he likely can’t be kicked out.
T
Mhm I’m sure there’s all sorts of nuance idk about but I’m quite sure a note of on the door with a couple hours notice ain’t it.
B
No. In fact treating him as a tenant (in the comments) and suggesting OP utilize rights afforded to tenants are missing an important fact and distinction. Op has established residence for 18 years. IANAL but I do have some experience with law, law enforcement, and tenant law. If dad tries to call the cops, they will probably tell dad this is a civil matter. OP has not committed a crime and – on its face – is not tresspassing. Because, again, this has been his home for 18 years. Just because the clock struck midnight and releases the parent from any legal obligations or responsibilities to their child, doesn’t equal the legal right to evict. All of this is why – if police are involved – will hopefully tell dad it’s a civil matter and he can petition the court to evict. But, that does depend on state statutes I’m not aware of. Besides, an asshole cop who thinks he’s hot shit and knows everything, could ticket OP or remove them. Given all that, I still am leaning on the answer being the cops not intervening. As long as there is no violence occurring and dad is simply being an asshole, they don’t want to deal with that shit. America is the only country to refuse a bill of rights for children.
B
The law and reality are quite different. If OP’s dad gets violent, changes the locks, or anything else of that nature, OP has to leave. Sure, OP could go to the courts and have their rights enforced, but does OP have the resources to do so? The time to wait for it to play out? Or even the desire to stay in the same house after it’s all said and done with?
M
Your dad is completely insane
B
I would never speak to this man again, there would be no power that could compel me to. That last line would be the clincher, the rest i could probably handle, but the proud jab, that’s a bridge too far for me.
M
Ye, if he is not proud of you, then he is a terrible father. That is his fault for not setting the example. Good luck my friend, life is hard and it will be a struggle but you can do it. Do not dispare.
R
Yes. Do not ever forgive him. He just earned a very lonely old age. But Jesus will change his diapers when he needs it, right?
B
In 10 years he’ll join the estranged parents group on facebook and whine about how his son never talks to him. Got married and has a baby, but he’s been cut out. 😭 boo fucking hoo.
D
Save these messages to post on that chat
R
“You can visit your grandchild when you have excelled and I am finally proud.”
B
M
My mom is one of these. “All I ever did was love you! How could you shut me out?!” types. Some people don’t belong in your life. This guy us one. And throwing in Jesus on top of it? Gross.
W
Yeah my mom is like that too. She cries to everyone she can about how I abandoned her despite her kicking me out because she chose kids with a new partner over me
P
Oooo is that a real FB group?
B
Yes. I don’t know a specific name, but I know many exist.
W
There are a ton of them on TikTok, too. They cry about how they did nothing wrong, and their mean kids won’t even tell them what they did wrong. All the while, they’re demonstrating personalities that are *clearly* begging to be cut off.
F
The way I see it is they failed as parents. There are people like this at work and I see the way they talk and think to myself, “no shit.” One guy was saying how if he found out his son was gay he would slit his throat.
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El Paso Times – What channel is first NFL playoff game on today? Rams vs Panthers odds
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